2016-17 NBA Champs?

[Barida]

Atlanta Hawks.. sigh why cant yall make it to the finals, but at the moment I have a San Antonio vs Cavs in the finals and I have SA winning it, nothing on Lebron, hes the best player in the universe but SA has a deep depth, Kwanai Lenord is one of the only men on the world that can slow Lebron Down, Tony Parker vs Kyrie will be exciting, but I think what will determine it is, down low, and Duncan is really old but.. man had one of his best seasons last year, so he still got a little motor and then they got Aldraige.. vs Love?? Im sorry, Love is a good player, top 5 PF in the game atm but... Hes not stopping that man Lamarcus and yes Kevin Love streches the floor but who cares because Duncan is still in the paint so its gonna be great to see if other teams emerges like the Miami Heat or the deep west but yeah.

[ABILITY]

If you watched ur GSW last playoffs, you should know that all the starting PG on opposing teams were either injured or got injured in the series. You should remember, GSW were a complete team while Cavs were depleted and all other players xcept Lebron and Delly (Games 2 and 3) stepped up. The stars aligned for GSW last season, SA and Clips got eliminated and Houston was a cat walk for GSW cause they're shooters. If Kyrie didnt get injured the series woulda went to 7 games going to either side.

[Milks]

boston gonna be # 1 seed in the east.

[Jah420]

I honestly rooting for Hawks last season just bcoz I didnt want LeBron nor GSW to win. Lol.
I just hope everyone will be healthy for next season especially MIA. Haha.

[SlipNSlide]

haha im just riding it as long as i can kev. Ive been a hawks fan for so long, and theyve been so bad for so long. Last season is the high point in my NBA watching life. I was to young for Wilkins, and Steve Smith.

[SlipNSlide]

lol kev, you didnt read all of that huh. "In reality theyre going to be 4-5 seed. Im just being a homer.

[ShotFake]

yes they used curry as an attention grabber, but that involves him getting touches on almost every possession. Youre right Curry doesnt dominate the ball quite like Lebron. However, They are a much better team when Curry is running the half court offense, instead of Klay. I really dont see Klay thompson improving alot as a passer, and i dont see green taking a jump in ppg. ESPECIALLY for the reasons you mentioned, they share the offensive load very well. teams that have a big 3 with real high ppg are not teams that the scoring is going to be as spread out for. You have to realize Klay thompsons hot like 44 pct last season. Do you really see him shooting 50 percent and scoring 20ppg? Seems illogical to me. GSW must be your home town or somthing lol. Theyre a great team, but Klay thompsons not going to become the next best sg in the NBA, I mean he might, but i really doubt it . Sure theyre going to improve, so is everyone else, but you have to notice theirs a ceiling to improvement. If he scores more it takes away from someone else. They scored 110 ppg (the highest in the league), at i think 45 percent? Which is also number one in the NBA. Would be nice for gsw fans to see them turn into the best team in the last 15 years, but i just don't see it. Theres to much talent in the league for them to just simply run through the league and become an unbeatable dynasty. Thats what would happen if Green and Klay saw marked improvements, and became the best trio of players in the NBA. Just because someone is really good, and young, doesnt always mean theyre going to get better. This isnt nba2k15 where your stats just improve every season since you buy them with VC. its very hard to improve in the NBA, and saying that both of them will get that much better is a longshot.

Yes, I live and grew up in the bay area haha. It was a big deal for them to win. Btw, Barnes is their third option, not Green. But you are right, I do not know if these players will put in the work to get better. They do have Curry as their leader, who naturally is one of the hardest working players in the leauge, so we shall see.

[SlipNSlide]

yes they used curry as an attention grabber, but that involves him getting touches on almost every possession. Youre right Curry doesnt dominate the ball quite like Lebron. However, They are a much better team when Curry is running the half court offense, instead of Klay. I really dont see Klay thompson improving alot as a passer, and i dont see green taking a jump in ppg. ESPECIALLY for the reasons you mentioned, they share the offensive load very well. teams that have a big 3 with real high ppg are not teams that the scoring is going to be as spread out for. You have to realize Klay thompsons hot like 44 pct last season. Do you really see him shooting 50 percent and scoring 20ppg? Seems illogical to me. GSW must be your home town or somthing lol. Theyre a great team, but Klay thompsons not going to become the next best sg in the NBA, I mean he might, but i really doubt it . Sure theyre going to improve, so is everyone else, but you have to notice theirs a ceiling to improvement. If he scores more it takes away from someone else. They scored 110 ppg (the highest in the league), at i think 45 percent? Which is also number one in the NBA. Would be nice for gsw fans to see them turn into the best team in the last 15 years, but i just don't see it. Theres to much talent in the league for them to just simply run through the league and become an unbeatable dynasty. Thats what would happen if Green and Klay saw marked improvements, and became the best trio of players in the NBA. Just because someone is really good, and young, doesnt always mean theyre going to get better. This isnt nba2k15 where your stats just improve every season since you buy them with VC. its very hard to improve in the NBA, and saying that both of them will get that much better is a longshot.

[ShotFake]

I enjoy a good NBA convo, thanks slip. As always, neither of us know what is going to happen next year. That being said, can't wait for the NBA season to start again!

[ShotFake]

percentage wise yea definatly, but i mean its hard to expect any huge improvements. I Just don't see how it would help either. The things they can improve on are smaller things that you wont notice as much, more of playing smarter. However, Thats the same with just about every young 2nd and 3rd options in the league. Also the ball will be dominated by Curry. So Thompsons ball handling, and court vision is not a huge factor. To see marked improvement in it he would need to dominate the ball alot more. Which could happen, but what im saying is, if these guys improve anymore they will take away from currys ppg, and playstyle. I dont see how that would be a good thing, youd end up with a Westbrooke Durant situation. I could see their stats exploding if they were to become the number one option on a team, but on GSW thats not going to happen. Theyre already pretty much topped out talent wise. Alot of western conference teams have guys like that who are improving as well, but statisticly speaking i don't see Klay or Greens ppg/rpg/apg/bpg taking much of a jump this season. maybe improvements in TPG.

Im guessing you really didnt watch the warriors this season. I am a huge GSW fan, and have been one since 1999. I watched over 80% of their games last year, so I have a pretty good handle of the offense they run. The ball dominance by Curry was more of a Mark Jackson thing. Under the new Kerr offense the offensive load was distributed much more, the warriors actually averaged the most passes per game in the whole league. There were plenty of set plays for thompson and Barnes to go to work. They used Curry as an attention grabber to get a lot of these guys open, and it worked out- Championship. So yes, a Thompson improvment would be a good thing. Green will never be a ball handling scorer but he gets a lot of open looks playing with the best shooting back court the league has ever seen, so an improvement in his spot up shot would also help. Again, you didnt mention Harrison Barnes.

[SlipNSlide]

percentage wise yea definatly, but i mean its hard to expect any huge improvements. I Just don't see how it would help either. The things they can improve on are smaller things that you wont notice as much, more of playing smarter. However, Thats the same with just about every young 2nd and 3rd options in the league. Also the ball will be dominated by Curry. So Thompsons ball handling, and court vision is not a huge factor. To see marked improvement in it he would need to dominate the ball alot more. Which could happen, but what im saying is, if these guys improve anymore they will take away from currys ppg, and playstyle. I dont see how that would be a good thing, youd end up with a Westbrooke Durant situation. I could see their stats exploding if they were to become the number one option on a team, but on GSW thats not going to happen. Theyre already pretty much topped out talent wise. Alot of western conference teams have guys like that who are improving as well, but statisticly speaking i don't see Klay or Greens ppg/rpg/apg/bpg taking much of a jump this season. maybe improvements in TPG.

[ShotFake]

Most of the warriors are entering their prime, according to statistics most players enter their prime around 25-26. However, there is not much room for improvement in either of those guys, unless you're saying Klay thompson will shoot a higher pct than curry, and score 20+ ppg a game, and draymond green, already avg a double double. I don't see them improving much more. Merely because there's not much room for improvement. Curry is their number 1 option, so its hard to see their ppg going up. and if it did that might not be good for the team. They're definatly contenders, but you have to remember the Cavs they played in the finals were worse than the old cavs before lebron went to miami. They're the favorite though. Not taking much of a leap there, defending nba champs are the favorite. who woulda thunk.

I'm going to take a leap and say the Hawks are going to win, because i'm biased and stupid. In reality they're going to be the 4-5 seed in the East, but whatever. Dream big! Hawks Dynasty starts October 27th. The Pistons will be our first victim

There is a lot of upside for Klay lol. He could improve his ball handling, court vision, and finishing by the rim. His upside is a mile high, we all seen what he is capable of with his record breaking quarter... tbh Klay really didnt show up offensivly in the playoffs, he was an all star this year for a reason, and with some more experience and age (he just turned 25), he will be more consistent. A lot of people do not know this but Thompson is actually on pace to break most of Currys shooting records.

You didnt mention Harrison Barnes, who averaged the most minutes for the warriors during the playoffs for a reason. This young guy (only 23) might have been the core to the team without anybody noticing. He is also going to improve, and lets just say you are going to hear a lot more from Barnes, he already has championship defense and can shoot 40% from 3, not to mention he is extremely athletic (can jump through the roof).

As for Green, his defense really cant improve minus any veteran tricks he picks up. But offensivly he became one of the leagues stretch PFs simply by working on his shot last offseason. He wss never a shooter before and his shot improved tremendously from two years ago, and it still has some hitches in it. His shooting should also improve with yet another offseason under his belt. Also keep in mind all the players I mentioned are going to be apart of the USA team, and will get a rare opportunity to play alongside the best. Curry and Thompson played with the USA team before last season, and look what happened...

[SlipNSlide]

Most of the warriors are entering their prime, according to statistics most players enter their prime around 25-26. However, there is not much room for improvement in either of those guys, unless you're saying Klay thompson will shoot a higher pct than curry, and score 20+ ppg a game, and draymond green, already avg a double double. I don't see them improving much more. Merely because there's not much room for improvement. Curry is their number 1 option, so its hard to see their ppg going up. and if it did that might not be good for the team. They're definatly contenders, but you have to remember the Cavs they played in the finals were worse than the old cavs before lebron went to miami. They're the favorite though. Not taking much of a leap there, defending nba champs are the favorite. who woulda thunk.

I'm going to take a leap and say the Hawks are going to win, because i'm biased and stupid. In reality they're going to be the 4-5 seed in the East, but whatever. Dream big! Hawks Dynasty starts October 27th. The Pistons will be our first victim